It appears our smartphones are spying on us

I hope this catches the attention of Congress and there's enough of an uproar that phone makers put out software to remove this from our phones. I don't recall ever being notified this was present or consenting to being spied on in this fashion, and I did read the EULA before signing up. I wasn't planning on rooting my Android phone, but now I just might have to. #seb

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Alarming stuff.

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11 thoughts on “It appears our smartphones are spying on us

  1. I need to pop in with my usual “no shit” post.
    ALL smartphones made in the last 2 years have GPS. Even the bottom of the barrel free basic phones like the AT&T F160 have built-in GPS. And tracking has been possible for years prior using cell tower triangulation.
    In fact, cell companies have been tracking us from day 1 out of necessity. If you actually look at how cell operates you’ll see phones are continuously sending out an “I’m here” signal, thats how your phone calculates its “bars” and knows what system its operating on.

    You were never told about GPS because you don’t NEED to know. Who cares if your phone has GPS? On top of that, as noted prior, you’ve been tracked for years. The only way to prevent tracking even an old 1990’s car phone is to completely disconnect the power source.

    And the obligatory “If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about.”

  2. Carrier IQ is such a pain in the ass. And even for rooted users it is damn hard to find and even harder to get rid of. Thankfully awesome Android Devs are starting to pull this crap out of ROMs. But this only helps for rooted users. Also from what I have so far gathered Sprint Samsung ROMs seem to be the only ones that have pulled out CIQ. Possibly CyanogenMod ROMs have it removed too.

    Moloch, you are missing so much here. You need to read up on CIQ and what it does. Tracking via a GPS radio only gives location. CIQ is given full rights to the phone software and hardware inside the ROM distributed out via the carriers. It can basically grab any information off your phone it wants. That is a little more troubling and involved than simple location tracking via a GPS radio.

    And the obligatory “If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about.”
    You can’t be serious with that? There is so much wrong with that statement where to start. So if I have nothing to hide I shouldn’t have any problems telling Sprint,Verizon,AT&T,etc what I’m doing, how, when, and where? You must be trolling.

  3. @ Moloch: Wow, Moloch, it’s very clear you haven’t a fucking clue what we’re talking about. This has nothing to do with GPS. Try reading the linked article before opening your mouth and making yourself look like an idiot. Or rather, more of an idiot than usual.

  4. Just don’t do illegal business on your phone and there is no worry. Who cares if “they” know where I am and what I’m doing with my phone. I don’t do anything illegal so I don’t care if they track me or why.

    Do you care the airlines know when and where to/from you fly?
    Do you care that your ISP knows what sites you view and what you download?
    Do you care that the government knows where you live and work and can have police watch you 24/7 if they want?
    Do you care that credit companies know where you live and what you buy?

    I don’t see you freaking out about any of them.

    Why should you care if “they” know where you are and how many times you’ve played Angry Birds?
    Again, “If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about.”

  5. Just because I have nothing to hide doesn’t mean everyone and their mother has a right to know about it. Communication between my wife and I over SMS is nothing my phone carrier, or any other company, should be capturing and storing in their databases for whatever purposes they deem necessary. More importantly, it’d be really nice to be able to do online banking with my phone without having my account credentials and passwords keylogged and sent unencrypted to a company that has no business knowing that information. It’s not just about being tracked, it’s about every single fucking keypress being recorded and sent off without my knowledge or permission.

    It’s also the fact that they are actively lying over just how much and what type of information is being collected. If it was just application crashes and dropped calls and such then I wouldn’t have a problem with it, but they flat-out lied and said they weren’t capturing the content of SMS messages or what keypad presses you’re making and it’s been shown that’s exactly what they’re doing.

    Hey, perhaps you don’t have a problem with people you don’t know digging through your personal shit without so much as telling you. Maybe you allow the police to show up at random at your house and search it for illegal drugs without a warrant just on the off-chance they might find something. After all, it’s not like you have anything to hide, right? I’m an extrovert, but not that much of an extrovert.

  6. Why was “probable cause” included in the Constitution? If you have never studied law or criminal justice, you probably think it is OK to tell your story to the Police. You don’t even realize why there is so much importance placed on reading the “Miranda” to people. You are in for a rude shaking out of your naivite.



  7. If you’re serious about having nothing to hide, Moloch, send me all your personal information and I’ll post what I see fit of it to my blog.  That shouldn’t upset you one bit.

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