There’s still a few Catholics out there who think the Earth is the center of the Universe.

It’s been four centuries since the Catholic church persecuted Galileo for his theory that the Earth revolved around the Sun only to later admit that the evidence backed him up. Heliocentrism is the official stance of the Church today.

But there’s a group of Catholics out there that still think Galileo was wrong and the Church was right:

A few Catholics still insist Galileo was wrong –

Those promoting geocentrism argue that heliocentrism, or the centuries-old consensus among scientists that Earth revolves around the sun, is a conspiracy to squelch the church’s influence.

“Heliocentrism becomes dangerous if it is being propped up as the true system when, in fact, it is a false system,” said Robert Sungenis, leader of a budding movement to get scientists to reconsider. “False information leads to false ideas, and false ideas lead to illicit and immoral actions — thus the state of the world today.… Prior to Galileo, the church was in full command of the world, and governments and academia were subservient to her.

If you’re paying attention then it should be pretty obvious that the real concern here for these idiots is that the Church doesn’t have quite the iron grip on society that it used to have in the past and they’ve decided that Heliocentrism is where it all started to go wrong.  In other words, they want to drag the world back into the Dark Ages when the Catholic church kept the masses ignorant and ruled in a totalitarian manner. People are so much more moral after a few applications of a red hot poker. Not to mention getting people to confess was a lot easier when you could torture it out of them.

Considering the length of time and amount of evidence that Heliocentrism has enjoyed these yahoos must have some pretty amazing evidence that the theory is incorrect, right? Well, they think they do:

There is proof in Scripture that Earth is the center of the universe, Sungenis said. Among many verses, he cites Joshua 10:12-14 as definitive proof: “And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, while the nation took vengeance on its foe.… The sun halted in the middle of the sky; not for a whole day did it resume its swift course.”

Oh look, they’re pointing to a few Bible verses and using the if-the-Bible-says-it-it-must-be-true argument that’s so popular among Evangelists here in America. That’s it. That’s all they’ve got is a couple of Bible verses.

Which is ironic when you get to this part of the news article:

But Ken Ham, founder of the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Ky., said the Bible is silent on geocentrism.

“There’s a big difference between looking at the origin of the planets, the solar system and the universe and looking at presently how they move and how they are interrelated,” Ham said. “The Bible is neither geocentric or heliocentric. It does not give any specific information about the structure of the solar system.”

When you make Ken Ham sound reasonable you’ve got real cause to be concerned. Ken’s anti-Evolution arguments are pretty stupid themselves and rely on a lot of Bible verses to back them up so when he’s saying you’re out there, man, you are out there.

I’m sorry way-retro Catholic dudes, but you don’t get to decide what the facts are anymore. You’ll have to stick to killing people through massive misinformation campaigns about condoms and birth control where you still cause entirely too much damage as it is. They day when your silly superstition fades from people’s minds for good can’t come soon enough.

5 thoughts on “There’s still a few Catholics out there who think the Earth is the center of the Universe.

  1. You know, my favorite is when you point out things in the Bible that contradict whatever they are trying to prove, then they claim either you can’t use a parable at fact (that was a fav of mine someone said to me on a message board) or that you can’t cherry pick verses to prove your (ie heathen) point.

    I have to say though, I am saddened to admit this doesn’t surprise me.

  2. tim,

    It’s so obvious: everyone else is wrong, just like all the scientists are wrong. Get a grip on “reality” as the Babble sees it.

    😉 😆


  3. Ken Ham is losing the faith. This is precisely why you need a strong Church to keep people in line.

    Seriously, though, Ham is in fact wrong on this. Funny, he is wrong even when he is trying to be sensible, because it is rather evident that the Book of Joshua is indeed implicitly pro-geocentrism. That was certainly the traditional interpretation. Rather ironic to see Ham chickening out in his defense of Biblical nonsense.

    The story was funny, at least until Ham was mentioned. With geocentrism you just laugh and enjoy the intellectual train wreck. They have no influence, so it is entertaining. Calling for the Ptolemaic system to be taught in schools is a clear sign that you have become quite bible-blinded, but I would imagine that almost all Catholics acknowledge heliocentrism, and American Catholics themselves are only a shrinking minority. Ham, on the other hand, believes that humans and dinosaurs coexisted within the last 6,000 years. He is just as crazy, yet he is in the mainstream of American Protestantism, the faith of most Americans. Just look at the Republican candidates and their statements about evolution. Many/most Americans worship nothing other than stupidity.

    Even this idea of promoting geocentrism for the sake of keeping society in line is what you will hear from creationists. They are always eager to assert that acceptance of Darwin somehow correlates to increased immorality in society. I suppose Copernicus and Galileo can now be added to the list, with just as little evidence to demonstrate a connection to public behavior. But evidence is for sinners. Darwin and Galileo did not have invisible men telling them what to say, therefore they are evil usurpers with no credibility. Unlike, say, Pope Ben the patron saint of child rape and Ken Ham the apostle of mental defectives.

  4. “Science: Doesn’t really give a shit about your beliefs.”

    That should be “Reality doesn’t really give a shit about your beliefs.” Science, otoh, is severely limited by the beliefs and assumptions of its practitioners. If you can’t accept a new theory, you can barely see the conflicting evidence, instead you just kinda stagnate.

    Every one of the major, and especially controversial, theories (heliocentrism, old-Earth geology, plate tectonics, evolution, etc) rose up against the prevailing belief systems, and often the scientist(s) who came up with the alternative explanation had no more evidence than those who came before. The Heliocentrists had no more evidence of Earth’s motion than the Geocentrists, they just had the ability to see passed their own limiting assumptions.

    (Or am I reading too much into a line drawn comic?)

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