[SEB Guest Post] Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing.

Pic of Church and State street signs.OK. My Mother sent me another one of these infuriating chain mails. Here it is (minus the touching pictures) and below it is a rebuttal I would like her to read, although I’m not sure I’ll send it.

Subject: Re: Honored to do this

The first picture and the last picture are taken at the beach in Santa Barbara right next to the pier.  There is a veterans group that started putting a cross and candle for every death in Iraq and Afghanistan .  The amazing thing is that they only do it on the weekends.  They put up this graveyard and take it down every weekend.  Guys sleep in the sand next to it and keep watch over it at night so nobody messes with it.  Every cross has the name, rank and D.O.B. and D.O.D.  on it. Very moving,  very powerful??? so many young volunteers.  So many 30 to 40 year olds as well.   Amazing !

Did you know that the ACLU has filed a suit to have all military cross-shaped headstones removed? and another suit to end prayer from the military completely. They’re making great progress. The Navy Chaplains can no longer mention Jesus’ name in prayer thanks to the ACLU and our new administration.

I’m not breaking this one. If I get it a 1000 times, I’ll forward it a 1000 times!

Please, let us pray…

Prayer chain for our Military … Don’t break it!

Please send this on after a short prayer. Prayer for our soldiers Don’t break it!


Heavenly Father, hold our troops in Your loving hands Protect them as they protect us Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in this our time of need.

These things I humbly ask in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior,


Prayer Request: When you receive this, please stop for a moment and say a prayer for our troops around the world.

There is nothing attached. Just send this to people in your address book. Do not let it stop with you. Of all the gifts you could give a Marine, Soldier, Sailor, Airman, & others deployed in harm’s way, prayer is the very best one.


Mom, the ACLU has done and still does great things for this country. Please read the following in its entirety.

Taken from http://aclu.org/faqs— > “The ACLU has never pursued the removal of religious symbols from personal gravestones. In fact, following lawsuits filed by the ACLU and the Americans United for Separation of Church and State, the Department of Veterans Affairs agreed to allow family members to include a religious symbols on headstones.

The ACLU has long argued that veterans and their families should be free to choose religious symbols on military headstones — whether Crosses, Stars of David, Pentacles, or other symbols — and that the government should not be permitted to restrict such religious expression in federal cemeteries.

Personal gravestones are the choice of the family members, not the choice of the government. The ACLU vigorously defends peoples’ freedom to choose the religious symbols of their choice. The right of each and every American to practice his or her own religion, or no religion at all, is among the most fundamental of the freedoms guaranteed by the Bill of Rights.

The Constitution’s framers understood very well that religious liberty can flourish only if the government leaves religion alone. The free exercise clause of the First Amendment guarantees the right to practice one’s religion free of government interference. The ACLU will continue working to ensure that religious liberty is protected by keeping the government out of the religion business. You can read more about the ACLU’s position on religious liberty at www.aclu.org/religion.”

Also I could find no such suit to end prayer in the military. That is another Lie. And really sounds ridiculous to me how that could even be possible.

So, this BS you were tricked into forwarding is nothing more than propaganda. Jesus freaks, enemies of liberty, twisting the truth because they are afraid of non-Christians (such as myself) actually practicing the FIRST AMENDMENT. What you are supporting (by forwarding the nonsense above) is an anti-American sentiment that doesn’t allow a soldiers personal spiritual beliefs be represented on his own headstone.

Many soldiers are not Christian, some are Jewish, Muslim, etc. and would never wish to lay under a cross but even though they died to protect the first amendment, the first amendment has not been observed to respect and honor those fallen.

So Mother, do me favor, if you REALLY want what’s best for this country you will forward this to all your friends and help end a little of the ignorance that plagues and threatens to destroy this country. If everyone started researching all the people and issues they feel strongly about, they might learn they were lied to & this country might have a chance. (And Palin would not be so well liked!)

In fact anyone who does not forward this has no regard for the truth nor respect for what our soldiers die for every day, FREEDOM.


Your Son,


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You wanna know a little about me? True to the spontaneity that defines me i offer this conversation between me and my brother that started a few clicks past mid-night and fended a moment ago. (click paste) Monday, November 8, 2010 Deryck (12:54 AM): what aare you up too? Deryck (12:55 AM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtQakhG2Q_k&feature=related Justin Christmas (12:55 AM): just got done watching Dexter Deryck (12:56 AM): stupidevilbastard.com Deryck (12:56 AM): the walking dead was fucking intense Justin Christmas (12:56 AM): Watch the first one Deryck (12:56 AM): play that song and read my post. Justin Christmas (12:57 AM): i'm playing the song now Deryck (12:57 AM): definately Justin Christmas (12:57 AM): AMC kicks ass Justin Christmas (12:57 AM): they have balls Deryck (12:57 AM): yea .on hit for shooo Deryck (12:59 AM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS7CZIJVxFY Justin Christmas (12:59 AM): hold on i'm reading your post Justin Christmas (1:12 AM): LOL!!! nice prayer. That should some it up for not many political followers.... to many big words. lol... very well writ-in my man! Deryck (1:12 AM): thank you thank you Justin Christmas (1:13 AM): did you get any responces to it/? Justin Christmas (1:14 AM): ope I just saw it Deryck (1:14 AM): Just one from a member Justin Christmas (1:15 AM): i think your right though about the hanging fuckers Deryck (1:15 AM): Yea we would only have to hang one or two Justin Christmas (1:16 AM): I know! those rich fuckers don't wanna die. most of em are the biggest pussies on the face of this earth Justin Christmas (1:17 AM): they would be trembling drinking there hot tea Justin Christmas (1:17 AM): lol... i can see it now Deryck (1:18 AM): yea and doing their fucking jobs. Justin Christmas (1:18 AM): yeppers Justin Christmas (1:19 AM): dude did you know Nyoko is a nude model for art classes at colleges all over the country Deryck (1:19 AM): Nice Deryck (1:20 AM): Did hit that? or was the other one? Justin Christmas (1:20 AM): she even donates her vajaja to gynecologist students Deryck (1:20 AM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJAfbiRX7s&feature=related Justin Christmas (1:20 AM): nope that was the other one Justin Christmas (1:20 AM): lucky fucker Justin Christmas (1:20 AM): both of em are stupid hot Deryck (1:21 AM): yea Nyoka is the bitch that is threatened by inteligence from any one but her Justin Christmas (1:23 AM): yes but still hot Justin Christmas (1:23 AM): fire in the sky was a great movie Deryck (1:24 AM): Yea i'd dick her down but be mean as hell about it! Like when I'm done,ask if she has sme homework she should be doing and then tell her i got friends coming over, so...she needs to split Justin Christmas (1:25 AM): nice richard Justin Christmas (1:25 AM): chriss farly Deryck (1:25 AM): lol Deryck (1:25 AM): lol Deryck (1:25 AM): Lets see, Moron is *here, so... we should be ... Justin Christmas (1:26 AM): that video shows shit moving in the sky Justin Christmas (1:27 AM): I've seen shit similar to it twice in my lifetime, once with Mike Jones and once with Mom Deryck (1:28 AM): I saw a light with Mars outside your old apt. so close over our heads it took up most the sky Justin Christmas (1:29 AM): Except what I saw was stationary star and then 2 or 3 of them shift to another locatiion in the sky and just stop Deryck (1:29 AM): and then shot up to a gradual point pin point and dissapeared Justin Christmas (1:29 AM): Mike and mom saw it with me at the same time Justin Christmas (1:30 AM): ya that shit is crazy Deryck (1:30 AM): zoo theory pretty much sums it up for me Justin Christmas (1:30 AM): Mars swears up and down a more intelligent beings do not exist Deryck (1:25 AM): What does he say we saw that night? Justin Christmas (1:31 AM): zoo theory? Deryck (1:31 AM): yea that and/or jungle theory Deryck (1:31 AM): google it Deryck (1:32 AM): zoo hypothesis ... sorry Deryck (1:33 AM): and or jungle hypothesis Justin Christmas (1:35 AM): yep i've thought that since i was a kid Justin Christmas (1:36 AM): me uane and brandon would talk about that type of shit Justin Christmas (1:36 AM): duane Deryck (1:37 AM): yea it seems to me ever since I found out stars were actually other suns Justin Christmas (1:37 AM): makes since Justin Christmas (1:37 AM): it's a whole sea of life out therre Justin Christmas (1:38 AM): kind of mind blowing though Deryck (1:38 AM):since then space seemed less like an abyss and more like some one was looking upn at me as I was looking up at them Justin Christmas (1:38 AM): I bet the view in space is just scary Deryck (1:40 AM): this song was used as the space stations alarm clock for a while. Deryck (1:40 AM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiV_ue-PbL4&feature=related Deryck (1:42 AM): I keep telling myself to set it up so i could wake up to these enlightened ideas. Deryck (1:43 AM): It gives me goose bumps Justin Christmas (1:50 AM): everytime a government answers a question about strange activities they come up with a response something like "well if we come across little green men" Justin Christmas (1:51 AM): .... Deryck (1:53 AM): Oh yea yea Deryck (1:54 AM): Never beleive the the government unless they are denying something Justin Christmas (1:54 AM): pretty much Deryck (1:54 AM): or just assume the opposite of what they say about some scandal is the truth Justin Christmas (1:55 AM): Dude I can't believe california didn't pass the weed law Deryck (1:56 AM): Fucking stoners are unreliable Justin Christmas (1:56 AM): that's a damn shame! the cops were even on board Deryck (1:56 AM): fuck em Deryck (1:57 AM): maybe next time they will set an alarm clock or something Justin Christmas (1:57 AM): hopefully Justin Christmas (1:58 AM): they just had another convention here in columbia trying to get it legal Deryck (1:58 AM): It would still take the midwest 70 years to catchh up to that kind of tolerance Deryck (1:58 AM): wont happen brother Deryck (1:59 AM): certainly not before Cali. Deryck (1:59 AM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMcXjqUI8GQ Justin Christmas (2:00 AM): MU had a huge rally for it a couple of months ago stating if students had a choice between pot and alcohol it would be much better for the students. Saying marijuana doesn't cause students coming to class with hangovers Justin Christmas (2:00 AM): lol Justin Christmas (2:00 AM): true story Justin Christmas (2:01 AM): it was all over the news Deryck (2:02 AM): Yea now if they can bombard the media like that every few months over a few years they might have a chance Justin Christmas (2:03 AM): Have you seen Bad Leutinent with Nick Cage yet?? Deryck (2:03 AM): all they did was sell newspapers and piss off the Right Justin Christmas (2:03 AM): oh ya Justin Christmas (2:03 AM): right left who cares Deryck (2:03 AM): FUCK I forgot about that Justin Christmas (2:04 AM): i wanna tea bag the tea party Deryck (2:04 AM): Yea Deryck (2:04 AM): DUDE that would make the funniest vid ever Justin Christmas (2:05 AM): yes it would.... I would let the bags steep for a long time Justin Christmas (2:05 AM): bong Justin Christmas (2:05 AM): lol Deryck (2:05 AM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmvG2GZ3S7o Deryck (2:07 AM): At this moment, you should be with us. FEELING like we do. Like you LOVE to. But never will again. Justin Christmas (2:07 AM): hmm? Deryck (2:07 AM): the last song I posted Justin Christmas (2:07 AM): aw Deryck (2:08 AM): In my mellow merlot mode Deryck (1:25 AM): piss durnk really Justin Christmas (2:09 AM): I like mellow shit most of the time now... unless i'm drunk Justin Christmas (2:09 AM): or in a fuck it mood Deryck (2:12 AM): Tricia's gonna be mad that I Jimmy'd her to sleep then got up and drank all her wine. Justin Christmas (2:12 AM): lol Justin Christmas (2:13 AM): r u off probation yet?? Deryck (2:13 AM): Erotic jesus, lay with his Marys! Deryck (2:13 AM): No Deryck (2:13 AM): pe Deryck (2:14 AM): nope Justin Christmas (2:14 AM): still surpervised Justin Christmas (2:14 AM): ? Deryck (2:14 AM): yea Justin Christmas (2:14 AM): shitty Deryck (2:15 AM): havent had to see her now for 3 months tho Deryck (2:15 AM): fucking drank myself water DRUNK 3 times now for nothing Deryck (2:17 AM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uj4Q4zbtfM Justin Christmas (2:19 AM): due they took me off unsupervised for the tesspassing charge. went in to see my new po and she tried to get me to believe that it was wrong for me to be on her property as I knew she would. I broke out all of the missouri case law including federal law on the subject with detailed water boundary maps showing how the law governs surveyors platting. She quickly changed her attitude then told me to come back and see her in 3 months Deryck (2:22 AM): Yea their fucking tactics are as transparent as they are weak. Justin Christmas (2:22 AM): yep Justin Christmas (2:22 AM): oh well fuck it Justin Christmas (2:23 AM): it went from having to call in once a month to having to go see her in three months and then I'm off completly in march Deryck (2:25 AM): I probably wont be really let "loose" till i can bring her a employer addy & phone# Deryck (2:25 AM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z48rC3-4xM Justin Christmas (2:25 AM): gas station it Justin Christmas (2:26 AM): or delivery Deryck (2:26 AM): Just like slapping yourself in the face! Deryck (2:27 AM): yea. No. are you kidding me. they dont hire undesireables such as myself. Deryck (2:27 AM): round hur anywayz Justin Christmas (2:27 AM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MEgD4Fx9SI Deryck (2:29 AM): Ive seen that. Still makes me laugh tho Justin Christmas (2:29 AM): dude that shit had me laughing so hard I was drooling Justin Christmas (2:30 AM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y&feature=related Deryck (2:31 AM): laughing is incongruous to my mood tho Deryck (2:31 AM): Alright but next time your selection ha to groove Justin Christmas (2:32 AM): i like tutles Deryck (2:32 AM): I do too Deryck (2:33 AM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PdKpR9qNtg Deryck (2:33 AM): one of his last performancces Deryck (2:34 AM): he was still the only one who knew he would die soon Justin Christmas (2:34 AM): hows that Deryck (2:34 AM): kept it a secret untill the end Justin Christmas (2:34 AM): huh Deryck (2:34 AM): pancreatic cancer Justin Christmas (2:34 AM): damn Justin Christmas (2:35 AM): that's a death sentence for sure Deryck (2:35 AM): Is there a punch line coming Bill? Deryck (2:36 AM): There was a fucking a messiah if there ever was one Justin Christmas (2:36 AM): alright i'm stupid sleepy right now... i'm crashin my man Deryck (2:37 AM): yea me too after this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX2Qu47ILEM Deryck (2:40 AM): Many! Deryck (2:40 AM): 1 thru 90? all of them!? Deryck (2:41 AM): yea there is a point Deryck (2:44 AM): I couldn't make a face like that if a car rolled over my foot Deryck (2:47 AM): go to bed Deryck (2:48 AM): I'm proud to be a part of my own act. lol Deryck (2:48 AM): night Deryck (2:50 AM): One must eat the other Who runs free before him. Put them right into his mouth While fantasizing the beauty of his movements. A sensation not unlike Slapping yourself in the face... Slapping yourself in the face... Slapping yourself in the face... Deryck (2:51 AM): yup I'm I M ing myself Deryck (2:51 AM): in the face Deryck (2:52 AM): I M ing myself in the faaaaaaaaace goodnight and may your worst days from now on be only as bad as your best yesterdays.

12 thoughts on “[SEB Guest Post] Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing.

  1. I get a lot of these too, from a family friend. He was a friend of my late father so I don’t want to be too harsh on him, but this is an excellent reply, I’m going to save it for reference.

  2. Please, let us pray…


    Allah Akbar! Oh, wait . . .

    Almighty Zeus, giver of life . . . Oh, wait . . .

    Beloved Zoroaster, give us . . .

    Uhh, you see where this is going?



  3. Fundamentalists and true believers of all stripes, particularly those of the Abrahamian persuasion, will lie, cheat, manipulate and attack others on any pretense of defending or propagating their brand of faith. Moreover, they count on others of their own being willfully credulous regarding their own claims and willfully ignorant of anyone who claims otherwise. Indeed, it is considered a virtue to be thus.

    This is a fairly innocuous example of it, by the standards of such things. It’s a good example nontheless.

  4. Received similar stuff from a couple of different friends on different occasions. I largely discard it.

    On two occasions – one being an attack on non-Christians (with the “non-believer” blanket), and another talking about the singing of the national anthem in non-English – I wrote a full reply.

    I was never sent that crap from either person, ever again.

  5. Yeah, the e-mail going around in my area is the mythical NASA computer simulation and the “lost day” hoax.

  6. My standard response to this sort of drivel?

    The lone word “Hoax”/”Myth” or somesuch and a link to the snopes or truthorfiction article.

  7. At least I’m not the only atheist who gets crap like this in my email. It’s amazing what kinds of rubbish gullible fundies will believe. Anything that feeds into their persecution complex is accepted as gospel truth. It would be funny if it weren’t so infuriating.

  8. I don’t get these much. I do sometimes get anti-Islamic e-mails; luckily, as an atheist, I dislike Islam about as much as Christians do. At any rate, I do recall one e-mail a few years back where “Jay Leno” wrote a piece complaining about all of the Bush jokes and Bush criticism going around at the time. A quick youtube search shows that Leno held no such position; the real Leno made jokes about Bush along with every other comedian.
    Always trust everything you read on the Internet, particularly when it is written by conservatives. Conservatives never lie.

  9. Not so much disagree with the fact of the undertaking of the beach project. It’s really a cool thing. I do however, get upset when people just don’t check the facts and pass things along. I think it always catches up to them though, and people start seeing which people merely pass crap along because they are guilted into these practices.
    I just wish the idiots that add false statements into forwarded emails as the pass them along would stop being dicks. The further hurt their cause (and of being creditable).
    Who knows! It could be a non-believer sabotaging the email. But I doubt it.
    Truth be told… I always get these from the same types of people I know. Very religious type with and added blindness to their beliefs. yOU KNOW THE ONES… tHE WORLD IS ONLY 4-5K YEARS OLD ETC. Because that’s what the bible says. Hey, I’m Catholic, I’m religious, but come on… I can see the ignorance there.
    But the obvious lesson here, is whenever an email says to pass it on, or it says “Oh this is true, I checked!”, you know you better check it out before sending it on.
    On a personal note: I don’t pass anything one that looks like a chain. Religious, Patriotic, or satanic. Doesn’t matter. They (the chain letters) piss me of.

  10. Oh, and the worst ones are those that say “reply back to me as well”.
    All BS.

    I do at times pass along a link to Snopes.com or the likes. When I do this in a “Reply-to-all”, they get the message
    (Or do they? – hmmmm).

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