Turkish girl buried alive by the family that loved her.

They say you always hurt the ones you love, but this is taking it too far:

A Turkish teenager found dead in a hole next to her house was probably buried alive, a post-mortem examination has revealed.

Medine Memi, 16, was found in the hole in December. Large amounts of soil were in her lungs and stomach, according to a source who has seen the report.

Her father and grandfather have been arrested, but not charged.

[…] Her hands had been tied behind her back, and they discovered large amounts of soil in her lungs and stomach.

The autopsy has concluded that she was almost certainly buried alive.

The police went to her home after a neighbour reported that Medine had not been seen for a month.

They found her body in a hole, newly covered with concrete, next to the hen-house.

I was going to make this another in the Too Much Faith series of posts I’ve been doing, but the article claims religion didn’t really have anything to do with it:

Medine, who had never been to school, lived in Kahta, a town in the mainly Kurdish south-east of Turkey, where most honour killings have taken place.

The town is known for being very conservative and religious; it is a stronghold of the once powerful Naksibendi Islamic sect, which was banned by modern Turkey’s founding father Ataturk in 1925 but has revived in recent years.

But while it is true that most such killings are carried out in conservative Muslim communities, the practice is linked more to the customs of this region of Turkey, than to religious belief.

When girls or women are deemed to have stained the family honour, by behaviour as innocent as simply talking to boys, there is strong peer pressure from the community on the male members of the family to restore their honour, say groups working on the issue in the south-east.

The only way allowed by their code is to kill the girl or woman – usually a young man is given the task after a family council meeting, and the method and location of the killing are discussed in detail.

It still stinks of delusion to me. Seriously, how fucked up do you have to be to bind one of your own kids, put them in a hole, and shovel dirt in on them until they choke to death on it? I can’t imagine the horror of being the victim of such an act let alone it being compounded by the fact that the perpetrators were people who supposedly loved me. And what horrible thing had this poor girl done to deserve such a fate? She had talked to some boys.

According to the news article, there have been 16 honor killings in the province of Adiyaman, where Medine lived, between 2003 and 2007. It’s the sort of thing you’d think the world would have outgrown by now, but it’s not confined to just Turkey.

Here’s something to think about: According to the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) there are some 5,000 honor killings yearly around the world with some countries having laws that make it perfectly legal.

18 thoughts on “Turkish girl buried alive by the family that loved her.

  1. A lot of these killings are done due to perceived slights too or even something the girl didn’t have any control of. Not that it is right for any reason…but if a girl is raped then it is considered her fault and she is punished for it…not the man who raped her.

    While technically not religious…it is religious dogma that has taught this thought process. Women are the reason men sin and therefor should be controlled. If a man commits sin against a woman, it is the woman’s fault for tempting the man.

  2. This is so sad. Some people have a warped sense of honor. How can people sit around and discuss who is to kill a relative and how it is to be done and not somewhere in the process realize that this is insane? I cannot imagine.

  3. I say 5000 killings is a conservative figure, In some countries it almost seems illegal to be born female. They want a male because they stay within the family. When the parents grow old, they will still have support. Many infants perhaps tens of thousands live but a few minutes or hours after birth. And this is nothing new.

  4. “customs of this region of Turkey”? What baloney. Honor killings under very similar circumstances happen in many Muslim countries, and among Muslim minorities in Europe. It has everything to do with religion.

  5. Yes, and the Romans, Christians, and Jews also have a history of honor killings. It’s not just a Muslim thing. The probable reason that honor killings are most common among Muslims nowadays is the fact that Europe experienced the Enlightenment, and the Muslim world didn’t.

  6. I can’t fathom what is honorable about killing someone over violations of social custom. But religious people, apparently, can.

  7. This disturbed me enough that I couldn’t stop thinking about it today and wrote a poem, which may not be particularly politically correct…!

    My half apple

    Two halves align and fit together
    With no visible tie,
    As though the knife that cuts apart
    Had stayed sheathed, clean and dry.

    All apple halves are different shades,
    A different colour a slice,
    But only two become a seamless one
    With no join to be seen by eyes.

    But what of some others with a seam?
    They believe their love is pure,
    Defeating the emotions of desire and lust
    Unknowing that love is much more.

    Ill-fitting halves are pressed together
    By fruits on older bows.
    Bonded by a decorative glue
    That heals old inter-branch rows.

    Yet what good is a bonded fruit
    If one of the halves is hidden?
    Where the smaller slice will shrivel away,
    And the whole does what one half has bidden.

    A fruit where the seeds of love have been bored,
    Where the sun-kissed half is not loved, but endured.
    In a life of slavery without the whip,
    Where purpose is care of a fruitful pip.

    And it leaves a pain in this half of me
    For what can I do against an ancient tree?
    That hides and covers its fairer halves,
    To sell or kill with an honourable laugh.

    For I have found my half-apple mate
    But what good can it bring?
    For all the love two halves may feel,
    Many more are trapped by a ring.

  8. Metalhead – I thought it was Terrific. And sadly true at the same time. Thanks for coming on here today and sharing your gift.

  9. “What is a good man but a bad man’s teacher?
    What is a bad man but a good man’s job?
    If you don’t understand this, you will get lost,
    however intelligent you are.
    It is the great secret.”

    Tao Te Ching, translated by Stephen Mitchell

    As you can see, there is a great deal of work for good men in this world.


  10. I read in a news article that this poor girl went to the police multiple times to complain of abuse, but each time was returned home to her abuser. I can’t help but wonder what role that played in this outcome.

    Either way, this is absolutely horrific beyond imagining.

  11. It’s hard to believe, living in the West in the 21st century, that this is still possible, isn’t it? Poor girl.

  12. That’s the problem, isn’t it? They’re not living in the 21st century, culturally/religiously speaking.

  13. Honor killings make my blood boil. I think that those things that carry out honor killings should be destroyed by any means necessary. They are not human.

    They are monsters.

  14. Meshakhad – That idea may leave quite a few Orphaned children that were wanted. But I get how you feel… I also get that this is an acquired unique social learning curve at it’s worst.

    It’s kind of like abortion. Some people would never dream of doing it. While others think of it as the norm. Same with same sex marriage or any number of things.

    Much of the ( Social acceptance ) is learning to accept an action and make it as a presentable norm, and pass it on to Society. They do so in the best interest of others, or religious reasons, or concern for themselves or even the person they are murdering. They would tell you it is above all ( Justifiable Homicide ) but I’m sure they use another term for it like ( Sacrifice ) or some shit.

  15. Please Do not attribute this madness to all of Turkey, and do not use the EU card based on this horrible incident. This is a Kurdish tribal custom, not Turkish.Kurdish are refusing to be educated despite there are lots of organizations trying to help them.. The Kurds,that most of the EU countries support againist Turkey!

  16. if there is God (sorry i have no religion) i asking him judge all corrupted and evil NOW .not on a judgment day. even prevent all . free will is a lie . . i am living in istanbul from Kurdish descent. the world so cold so dark evil is everywhere ๐Ÿ™ . their one most and innocent right has been taken from them (from victims) their LIFE . endless happiness in heaven cant beat that . no man no.. somethings is missing ๐Ÿ™ . and if someone try judge this case from a racial perspective i feel very very sad for them too . mankind is in coma ๐Ÿ™

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