World of Warcraft unleashes Battlegrounds with today’s patch!

Today is a big day for Blizzard’s hugely popular World of Warcraft as the 1.5 patch introduces a major new feature in the long-promised Battlegrounds add-on. Players logging in after the patch will finally find that the Warsong Gulch and Alterac Valley battlegrounds are open and ready for massive PVP action. This should help to revitalize my interest in playing my level 60 dwarven hunter, Balfour, as lately I’ve been concentrating on some of my alternate characters. In addition to the new Battlegrounds system this patch comes with a big list of bug fixes and balance tweaks. You can find a full listing of the changes in the extended entry.

My one complaint with WoW since hitting level 60 is that it’s way too hard to make money in the game at any reasonable rate. Unless you’re part of a big guild that does nothing but high-level raid dungeons all the time the only way to make money in the game is to spend hours and hours on resource gathering to sell on the auction house. That feels a bit too much like real world work and the last thing I’m playing a game for is to feel like I’m working. I’d be perfectly happy with just doing PVP at level 60 except that it costs money to repair your items and buy ammo and there’s no money handed out for the kills you get while PVPing. So that’s why I’ve been playing my lower-level alts for the most part. I’m hoping the new Battlegrounds system will at least give me a good reason to play my level 60 character again, if not exactly solve the lack of money he has.

Patch 1.5 Changes
****Battlegrounds arrive!****

– The Warsong Gulch and Alterac Valley battlegrounds are now available. The Warsong Gulch entrances may be found in the northern Barrens near the Mor’Shan Rampart (Horde) and south of Silverwing Outpost in Ashenvale (Alliance). The Alterac Valley entrances may be found east of Sofera’s Naze in Alterac (Horde), and in the Headlands of Alterac (Alliance).


– Wands – The Shoot Wand ability is now a toggle. While active, it will continue attacking with the equipped wand until cancelled (e.g. moving).
Pet speed has been increased when out of combat and following their master.
– Berserking (Troll Racial) – Updated tooltip to clarify ability only usable following a melee critical.
– Hardiness (Orc Racial) – Fixed a bug that caused many abilities to ignore the additional resistance.
– It should no longer be possible to disarm traps created by friendly players.

Honor system
– Dishonorable kills – gained by killing a trivial Civilian NPC – now has a negative impact on a player’s honor. Enough dishonorable kills will reduce a player’s rank all the way to zero.
– Players may now see an “estimated contribution point value” in the combat log for an honorable kill. Note that this value does not take diminishing returns against the same player into account, and is therefore “estimated”.
– “Team Contribution Points” has been renamed to “Honor”
– Added tooltips to the different elements of the Honor System UI.
– Players will see their last week’s kill data in the “Last Week” section of the Honor System UI even if they did not achieve the 25 honorable kills required to gain standing or rank.
– Fixed a bug where the PvP trinket rewards were not always removing the effects they were designed to remove (e.g. Polymorph, Fear, Stun).
– Sitting characters will now stand up immediately after an attack, even if stunned.

– Players can no longer swap inventory gear while dueling.
– Dueling is now allowed within Everlook.


– Special ability shots (e.g. Aimed Shot, Arcane Shot, Multi-Shot) no longer add the ranged weapon speed or take into account ranged weapon haste when determining the actual cooldown. The tooltip and cooldown timers should now properly reflect the actual cooldown.
– The Hunter Epic quest has had some of its Demonic Corrupters retuned. It should also be noted that Hunters that attempt to bypass the single player portion of the encounter by using another class to do their tasks will fail the quest in a most glorious fashion.
– Tranquilizing Shot – Is now properly affected by Efficiency and Hawk Eye talents.
– Unleashed Fury – Fixed a bug where the damage increase was lower than stated in the tooltip. It should now increase damage by the listed amount.
– Growl – Rank 1 effect improved.
– Volley – Damage increased.
– Pet speed has been increased when out of combat and following their master.
– Spirit Guides in Battlegrounds will now summon/resurrect your current pet when the Hunter is resurrected.
– Unstabling dead pets no longer puts players into a degenerate state where their pet only partially exists. Unstabled dead pets can now be properly revived, and players can no longer train more pets than their stable can hold.
– Fixed a bug where magic shots were missing too frequently when used on a target with Blessing of Protection active.


– Mage Armor – Now has a new, unique icon.


– Fixed a bug where a Hunter’s magic shots were missing too frequently when used on a target with Blessing of Protection active.


– Inner Fire – Now stacks with other effects that increase attack power and armor.
– Holy Nova – Cooldown decreased.
– Feedback – Casting a higher rank of the spell will now replace an existing, lower level effect.
– Unbreakable Will – Fixed a bug that caused many abilities to ignore the additional resistance.


– Riposte – Fixed a bug where the ability was not usable against a disarmed or unarmed target.
– Vanish – Should be a lot more responsive when used to avoid incoming attacks.


– Fixed a bug where Fire Nova, Flametongue, Stoneclaw and Windfury Totems had incorrect level caps when cast by higher level shaman. All totems should now be summoned at the level of the caster.
– Flametongue Totem – Tooltip updated to clarify that only the main-hand weapon is enchanted.
– Windfury Totem – Tooltip updated to clarify that only the main-hand weapon is enchanted.
– Fire Resistance Totem – New icon.
– Frost Resistance Totem – New icon.
– Grounding Totem – Fixed a bug that allowed some area of effect spells to be “grounded” and/or destroy the totem.


– Improved Drain Mana – Damage caused is now considered Shadow damage and is no longer reduced by armor.
– Improved Voidwalker – Now increases all Voidwalker spells (now also including Sacrifice) by 10/20/30%.
– Improved Succubus – Now increases Succubus spells by 10/20/30%.
– Master Summoner – In addition to decreasing casting time of summoning the Imp, Voidwalker, Succubus and Felhunter, it now reduces mana cost by 20/40%.
– Improved Enslave Demon – In addition to reducing the attack speed and casting speed penalty of enslaved demons, it now reduces the resist chance of Enslave Demon by 2/4/6/8/10%.
– Demonic Sacrifice – Is now instant cast.
– Improved Firestone – Now also improves the bonus Fire spell damage of Firestones by 15/30%.
– Inferno – The summoned Infernal will now be enslaved for 5 minutes before turning on its summoner.
– Drain Mana – Targets with no mana will no longer be valid for Drain Mana (Rank 4), making it consistent with all other ranks of the spell.
– Improved Drain Mana – Damage caused by this talent is now improved by the Shadow Mastery talent.
– Conflagrate – Range increased.
– Siphon Life – Is now instant cast, damage increased.
– Paranoia – No longer causes threat when cast.
– War Stomp (Doomguard) – Now has a maximum of 5 targets.
– Pet speed has been increased when out of combat and following their master.
– Honorable kills will now generate a Soul Shard when Drain Soul and Shadowburn are used.
– Spirit Guides in Battlegrounds will now resurrect your last Imp, Voidwalker, Succubus or Felhunter. If the Doomguard or Infernal were the last active pet or the previous pet was killed before the Warlock, an Imp will be summoned.
– Improved Curse of Agony – Fixed a bug where Curse of Agony (rank 1) was not improved by the talent. The talent will now work properly with all ranks of Curse of Agony.


– Overpower – Fixed a bug where the ability was sometimes blocked.
Improved Cleave – Now increases damage bonus by 40/80/120%.
– Blood Craze – Talent design changed. It now regenerates 1/2/3% of the warrior’s total health over 6 seconds after being the victim of a critical strike.
– New Fury Talent: Dual Wield Specialization – Increases damage with the off-hand weapon by 5/10/15/20/25%. Note: the additional damage also increases rage generation significantly.
– Iron Will – Fixed a bug that caused many abilities to ignore the additional resistance.
– Enrage – Increased the number of charges to 12. Decreased the duration to 12 seconds. The new duration is the limiting factor for slower weapons (e.g. Arcanite Reaper will typically get one less swing), while dual wielding and faster weapons will make better use of all of the charges over the duration of the ability.
– Concussion Blow – Changed to an instant, stunning attack and removed the damage portion.
– Shield Specialization – In addition to increasing % chance to block, it now gives the warrior a 20/40/60/80/100% chance to generate 1 rage on a successful block.


– The following item sets have had their statistics, effects, and set bonuses updated: Arcanist, Netherwind, Prophecy, Transcendence, Felheart, Nemesis, Cenarion, Stormrage, Nightslayer, Bloodfang, Giantstalker, Dragonstalker, Earthfury, Ten Storms, Might, Wrath, Lawbringer, and Judgement.
– Mature Blue Dragon Sinew and The Eye of Shadow can both now drop off appropriate level demonic and blue dragonkin monsters. It should be noted that both Lord Kazzak and Azuregos will guarantee a drop of the aforementioned items but to get the items from the lesser creatures will be a much rarer occurrence.
– Essence of Eranikus now has a poison cloud graphic around it when used.
Murloc Scale Belt and Breastplate recipes now are white items instead of green since they are vendor bought.
– Gryphon Mail Gauntlets now have a proper inventory icon.
– Ogre Toothpick Shooter now uses the proper attack animation.
– Distracting Dagger now sheathes properly.
– Mountain Giants in Feralas now drop loot more appropriate to their elite status.
– The Druid of the Claw quest in Teldrassil will now provide a weapon choice more appropriate for low level Night Elves.
– The Dreadmist set now has a bonus for wearing all 8 pieces of the set.
– Cutthroat’s Loincloth name changed to Cutthroat’s Pants.
– Ritual Kilt name changed to Ritual Leggings.
– Felstriker effect’s name changed to Felstriker to reflect the previously patched item name change.
– Ogre Pocket Knife, Peacemaker, and Lok’delar, Stave of the Ancient Keepers now sheathe properly.
– Dragonbreath Chili’s effect visual fixed.
– The Oblivion’s Touch wand properly shoots now.
– Deepstrider Tumors are now a 100% drop off Deepstrider sea giants in Desolace.
– New art has been added for Nightslayer, Lawbringer, and Beaststalker’s item sets.
– The Arcanist Crown has updated art.


– New Engineering firework recipe added.
– Added leatherworking recipe for mid level blue bracers.
– Dragonbreath Chili proc rate has been reduced.
– Restorative Elixir name changed to Resorative Potion with potion cooldown timer. Functionality has been changed so it should be more effective as it now dispels one harmful effect every 5 seconds for 30 seconds.
– Two new transporter recipes have been added, with one for gnomish and one for goblin engineers. Gnomish engineers can get their recipe from Gadgetzan, Goblin engineers from Everlook.
– Tribal Leatherworkers who have restarted their profession are now able to relearn the various Wild Leather patterns if they’ve already completed the quests prior to restarting the profession. Speak with Pratt McGrubben (Alliance) or Jangdor Swiftstrider (Horde) in Feralas to relearn what you once knew!
– Small Throrium Veins now sometimes will have Emeralds or Diamonds.
– Engineering Vendors now sell Blacksmith’s Hammers.
– Both types of the engineer made Jumper Cables now share a cooldown. It was never intended to allow a player to use jumper cables XL and jumper cables within the same period of time.
– Solid Dynamite was inadvertently broken in the 1.4 patch to require harder materials than it should. This has been fixed.
– Wicked Leather Bracers Plan is no longer bind on acquire.
– Jumper Cables no longer have a chance to break when they fail.
– Elemental Flux added to blacksmith vendors.

Raids & Dungeons

Molten Core
– Firesworns that are moved too far away from Garr will now become quite enraged until they move closer to Garr.
– The eruptions from the lava in Ragnaros’s Lair will now always happen while Ragnaros is in combat. However, these lava eruptions occur less frequently, do less damage, and the damage they inflict is now resistable.
– The maximum range of the Wrath of Ragnaros spell has been increased.
– Additional new raid items have been added to the treasure lists for Azuregos, Lord Kazzak, and bosses in Molten Core.
– Onyxia – Fixed a bug that was causing Onyxia’s Tail sweep to no longer cause knockback.


– Searing Gorge has a new quest hub for both Alliance and Horde players called Thorium Point. The supported level ranges are 45-52. Craftsmen will be happy to know that the Thorium Brotherhood has opened up many new opportunities to gain favor amongst their clan (even for level 60 players).
– The Hinterlands has a new Horde quest hub known as Revantusk Village, located on the eastern coastline. Horde players level 44-52 are encouraged to visit Revantusk Village and assist the Revantusk with their myriad problems and tasks!
– All members of both the Horde and Alliance are reporting low stockpiles of various textile resources! Donations of cloth are now being accepted in the following locations: Darnassus, Stormwind, and Ironforge for the Alliance; Orgrimmar, Undercity, and Thunder Bluff for the Horde. Seek out an official Cloth Quartermaster for more information.
– Several quests have been added to Feralas for level 45-52 characters.
Krueg Skullsplitter has moved from Thousand Needles to a more appropriate location at Camp Mojache in Feralas.
– Highlord Demitrian is back! For those players unraveling the mysteries of Thunderaan, you may once more speak with the Highlord.
– Dwarven Priests may now undertake the Molten Core discovery quest; “Attunement to the Core.” By fixing this bug, we had to open the quest to all players once more. If you have already done the quest, you will not be required to do it again in order to access the Molten Core via the portal.
– Highlord Bolvar Fordragon should no longer despawn when “The Great Masquerade” is activated.
– Characters on the “A Strange Historian” quest are now correctly prompted to find Chromie in the northwest corner of Andorhal, where she and the ruined inn have been moved to.
– The Gordok Courtyard Key and the Gordok Inner Door Key are now zone bound items. These items only exist within the Dire Maul zone instance, and players will lose these keys from their inventory if they leave the zone.
Everyone’s favorite Alliance quest, “Deep Ocean, Vast Sea” now gives a substantial coin reward in addition to the choice of item.
– Rage Scar Yetis in Feralas no longer give the quest item for the “Mark of Quality” quest.
– Completing the “Mark of Quality” quest now gives Darnassus and Thunder Bluff faction increase where appropriate.
– Merideth Carlson should only hand out her free horse feed now to people who have already completed the quest for it.
– The “Unfinished Gordok Business” quest has been fixed to allow certain Human Priests access to it who had difficulty previously.
– Sea Elementals and Sea Sprays in Feralas should now be giving out the proper version of Oglethorpe’s distress beacon.
– The end of the Paladin Epic Mount quest “Grimand’s Finest Work” now makes it clearer that Lord Shadowbreaker’s acquisition of the Arcanite Barding is only temporary.
– Jeziba in the Ruins of Andorhal now faces the correct direction when pointing to his Catalogue of the Wayward.
– Fraggar Thundermantle now correctly tells you to return to him, and not his evil, two-eyed twin, Frobe Thundermantle when completing the Skull Rock Clean-up quest.
– The Branch of Cenarius no longer drops off of Prince Raze. It now properly only drops off of Geltharis for the quest, The Branch of Cenarius.
– Failed quests will now indicate (Failed) in the quest log so it is easier to see them.
– Typos fixed in the Paladin Epic Mount quests.

User Interface

– Innkeepers around the world now have a gossip option that lets you join a meeting stone directly from the innkeeper rather than going to the location of the meeting stone. Also these Innkeepers will now have background lore about each of the dungeons.
– Levels Required for meeting stones have been increased. The intent is that a group will not receive party members from a meeting stone that don’t really have a chance of completing the dungeon.
– Meeting Stones have had their rules for what players are grouped with what other players relaxed. This means groups who use meeting stones (or innkeepers) should have their groups formed much more quickly than they were previously.
– Pets of other party members will now display in the party UI. You can see pet health and harmful effects on the pet. You can turn this functionality on and off in the Interface Options menu.
– Players can now target other players in a raid by clicking on their name in the raid window. Additional Raid UI improvements coming soon.
– Added visual effects for healing power and spell power enchantments.
– Your main action bar now displays the number of the bar that you are currently displaying.
– In Master Looter mode, items are no longer opened up for looting by all party members after the round-robin looter closes their loot window. The Loot Master always distributes items over the loot threshold.
– Rolling on items while charmed/hexed/etc. now works, as does /random and receiving items from the master looter.
– When a player dies in an instance and then uses the spirit healer, the body in the instance now turns to bones.
– Players can no longer mail or auction an item that they’ve just disenchanted.
– When a ghost player is resurrected into an instance that has become full, they no longer come to life wherever their ghost happens to be standing. Instead, they get ported to the closest graveyard.
– Players must now bind a bind-on-equip bag to put in into a purchased bank bag slot.
– Items split from stacks can now be dropped directly into (or onto) bank bags without any mysterious error messages.
– Added a “Maximize” windowed video option which will maximize the game window and remove the borders for a fullscreen experience which allows popup windows.
– Trying to use a hearthstone, consumable, etc. while logging out now displays a more appropriate message: “Another action is in progress.”
– The login interface files are now checked to make sure they haven’t been tampered with or corrupted. This is to improve account security in public game rooms.
– Added the function TargetNearestPartyMember() to the UI scripting system.
– The Thorium Brotherhood faction is now peaceful – players cannot go to war with them.
– The Wildhammer Clan in the Hinterlands is now a peaceful faction to the Alliance, meaning Alliance players cannot intentionally declare war on them.
A new graveyard has been added near the east coast of the Hinterlands at the Overlook Cliffs.
– The two Hinterlands graveyards are now using a system that will ensure that the spirits of dead characters go to the closest graveyard.
– Buliwyf Stonehand, the dwarven weapon master in Ironforge, now properly tells you about the weapons that Woo Ping can train you in, instead of talking about himself. He does like going on about his own martial prowess.
Krinkle Goodsteel of Gadgetzan submitted a complaint to the local Repairer’s Union and has had his ability to repair durability reinstated.
– Brave Wildrunner of Bloodhoof Village in Mulgore no longer patrols through the kodo mounts.
– Added new load screens for Deadmines, Wailing Caverns, Uldaman, Razorfen Downs, and Zul Farrak.
– Discovering Valor’s Rest now also pops the Southwind Village puzzle piece on the Silithus area map.
– Many of the Swift Mounts have gained eye glows and some have had other tweaks made to them to improve their looks.
– Additional mithril nodes have been added in Un’Goro crater
– Genavie Callow in Undercity is now properly on the Undercity faction.
– The Grow effect that Bom’bay in Sen’jin Village would sometimes cast on characters was reduced from 100% to 50% growth.
– The Lazy Peons in The Valley of Trials now make a wood chopping sound when they are hacking at the trees.
– The Dark Summoners of the Eastern Plaguelands have finally fully materialized and are no longer ghostly in appearance.
– In Silverpine Forest on Fenris Island, moved a Rot Hide Plague Weaver’s spawn point from inside a tree.
– Neeka Bloodscar of Kargath no longer speaks as if she is in the Barrens.

Flight Paths

New Horde Flight Paths
– Valormok in Azshara – Bloodvenom Post in Felwood
– Kargath in Badlands – Thorium Point in Searing Gorge
– Flame Crest in Burning Steppes – Thorium Point in Searing Gorge
– Tarren Mill in Hillsbrad – Revantusk Village in Hinterlands
– Undercity – Revantusk Village in Hinterlands

New Alliance Flight Paths
– Ironforge – Thorium Point in Searing Gorge
– Morgan’s Vigil in the Burning Steppes – Thorium Point in Searing Gorge
– The flight path from Undercity to Kargath no longer clips into the ground just south of Dalaran.

Bug Fixes

– Fixed bug causing all tailoring recipes to show up as “orange”

Patch 1.5 Supplemental Changes
General Battlegrounds changes

– All friendly players will now show up on the overhead and mini-map while in a battleground (regardless of whether they are grouped).
– Players entering a battleground queue now receive a system message informing them that they have successfully entered the queue.
– The mini-map icon for the battleground queue will now show the amount of time you have waited. In addition, the “seconds” field of the estimated wait time has been removed.
– Spirit Guides may only resurrect a maximum of ten players per “wave”.
– Going AFK in a battleground will cause that player to be disconnected from the game.

Alterac Valley

– Enemy NPC lieutenants and commanders now have a team bonus honor value.
– Enemy NPC lieutenants and commanders no longer respawn.
– Enemy towers are now destroyed rather than captured (a one-time event per tower). The mechanics for destroying a tower are very similar to their previous capture mechanic.
– The enemy NPC mine layer no longer respawns when killed.
– The respawn time for laying mines has been slowed.
– All Alterac Valley quest items (ie: armor scraps) are zone-bound, and will be lost if taken outside the battleground instance.
– Korrak’s respawn time has been increased to 30 minutes.
– NPC’s in the entrance tunnels will no longer fight enemy NPCs, only enemy players.
– Lok’holar the ice lord and Ivus the forest lord are now friendly to Horde and – Alliance players (respectively), and will therefore no longer affect friendly players with area-of-effect spells.
– Sound effects have been added to critical battleground events (ie: a graveyard being assaulted).
– Additional items for purchasing have been added to the quartermasters in the entrance tunnels. The types of items you may purchase is based on your reputation with the quartermaster.
– The Alliance and Horde NPC captains now periodically shout a “rallying cry”, granting a powerful effect to all friendly players in the battleground. Killing the enemy’s captain will deny the ability for the enemy to gain a rallying cry.
Ivus the Forest Lord now uses a winter Ancient Protector model rather than a Keeper of the Grove model.

Warsong Gulch

– The duration the flags will remain on the ground before automatically returning has been changed from 2 minutes to 10 seconds.
– The Boots of Speed now have a random spawn timer between 2 and 3 minutes, and the effect duration has been lowered to 10 seconds.
– Warsong Gulch now has a minimum of 8 players on each side to start a new instance. The maximum is still 10 players.

Bug Fixes

– It should no longer be possible to “double capture” a single flag in Warsong Gulch (get credit for two flag captures for capturing only one flag).
– Fixed a bug in Warsong Gulch where a carried flag would not be captured if the carrier was standing on their own flag when it was returned.

21 thoughts on “World of Warcraft unleashes Battlegrounds with today’s patch!

  1. Always one to explore addictions, me and the boyfriend are both WoW junkies.  But, with webdev work being what it is i’m only a level 30 Dwarf Rogue (skining & leatherworking) on Cenarion Circle (a NAmerica Pacific server, but we live near Boston/CapeCod).  He’s a level 53 Human Paladin (mining and blacksmithing i believe).

    Although i have no experience being level 60, i do know that many guilds have been setup in a syndicalist type of mode.  Forming a MMPORG symbiotic relationship with characters of various trades, each providing their commodities at or below Auction House (AH) rates.  Think of it as an egalitarian cartel.  I have a similiar, albeit informal, relationships with users i regularly see on Cenarion Circle.

    The AH is a great mechanism.  I’ve often yearned for a Civilization-3-esque type of economic multiplayer online game, and this is the closest i’ve had time to find—and by far the most professionally done.  By leverging your learnt trades, happened-upon commodities gathered during your travels, and these symbiotic-syndicate relationships you should be able to make great strides in WoW’s bustling economy.

    I’ve also had some free time in a few months ago to explore Cosmos and other add-on’s to WoW.  I’ve been real happy with one add-on called “LootLink”, which provides market prices and frequency for each object.  It really speeds up placing things on auction.

    Another handy resource for WoW Entrepreneurs is the Thotbot website.  I use it to locate beast that suit my current level, enabling quick leveling.  Or, it’s an effecient way to locate a particular precursor for this or that recipe.

    If current features, never mind this latest patch, are any indication, Warcraft’s future looks really interesting, regardless of whather i reach Level60 and need to goto Carousel and renew/roll a new character.  It’s a very cool game.

  2. I stopped playing Galaxies about 6 months ago due to the fact I got bored… grind, make, sell, hunt group and repeat all over again. Plus I really don’t have time anymore to spend so many hours just playing…

    But it seems I will finaly get WarCraft and give it a go.

    BTW, it seems something is wrong with the captha system you’ve got. It takes me a few tries before my post gets accepted.

  3. Re the captcha, i’ve had a situation where the image doesn’t generate leaving me nothing to authenticate.  Only a few times has this happened.  So, it is rare, and i havn’t been able to replicate it.  And, it could be something i’m doing.

  4. Anyone else having problems downloading the update? It’s saying it can’t find the tracker to get a list of peers. This doesn’t bode well for getting into the game tonight. Plus, I have two computers that need the update. 🙁

  5. Yeah, I’m getting the same message, Dave.
    Somehow I received 256KB of the 49.88MB during an accidental random connect but now I’m back to the message.

    Just as I was starting to enjoy the game again because of a new warlock character I’d created…

  6. One has been updated, the other is having some problems getting started. Sometimes there are problems with being behind a router. Ah well…

    In the mean time, I can check out Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. smile

  7. I do know that AOL users seem to have trouble with the captcha system here due to the way AOL caches pages so if you’re using a proxy that may be part of the problem. If you don’t mind registering an account then you can login and bypass the captcha altogether when commenting.

    Dave M. and Brock, you don’t have to use Blizzard’s downloader to get the patch—I never do anymore because it’s just too damned slow—just go to any of the gamer download sites and grab it there. You can find it at FilePlanet, File Shack, 3D Gamers, and Action Trip.

    I recommend using 3D Gamers as they don’t require you to register an account nor do they limit speed if you’re not a paying subscriber.

  8. Yeah – I had huge problems downloading the rotten thing;creating firewall exceptions did,nt help at all,but in the end I did what Les did – went elsewhere and zoot! 15 minutes later im playing again!I think the problem is thier file-sharing feature Blizzard thinks so highly of.Turning that off seemed to help a bit… not much though.

  9. I’ll keep the last three around for the next time. As for FilePlanet. I don’t much appretiate having to pay extra money just to download a “patch” that I “have” to download. That and doesn’t FilePlanet have a “queue” of people waiting to download the patch that didn’t pay their subscription price? I can remember my wife waiting hours to start a download with them. I won’t do that.

    Actually, this is a problem that most MMOG’s are going to have to deal with. Large updates that players have to get before playing and having a subscription base in the range of 300,000-1,000,000 users.

    I liked the idea Half-Life had with Steam where the bulk of the file was trickle downloaded over a large amount of time so that when the game was ready to be released, it was just a matter of decrypting the file and off they went. If WoW could “trickle” download the next patch to us over time, probably during beta testing, then the actual “patch” would really only be a Meg or so to the trickled patch, then apply the final patch and the user is off and running with a much shorter wait.

    I wonder what these MMOG’s will finally do to speed up the patch system.

  10. I also had problems pulling the 1.5 patch, though since getting DSL with the included router, I haven’t had much luck configuring the new router to my specs.

    But I finally just pulled the patch from, had it in 5 minutes at about 170kbs, and was running in 15.

  11. Dave M., as long as you don’t mind waiting in line a bit you can download it from FilePlanet for free. I think I had a total wait time of 23 minutes and then two minutes after that I had the file. My big complaint with FP is that they now require the use of Internet Exploder because they make use of an ActiveX BHO.

    For the record, File Shack is another wait-in-line for free or pay us a subscription for instant access type of service. If I were going to subscribe to such a service it’d probably be File Shack over FilePlanet though because FS doesn’t have as obnoxious of advertising on it.

  12. This is my problem. I’m not going to pay either to do what should be free to begin with. Demos, patches, etc… All things that a company wants to get into as many hands as possible. Forcing people to wait in line or pay extra is like making people pay money to watch a commercial. . . Oh that’s right, that already happens in movie theater’s. Hence the reason I rarely go to the movies these days. I also don’t appreciate paying money for a DVD only to be forced to watch parts of it without the ability to fast forward or bring up the DVD menu.

    As hooked as I am with WoW, I can wait a day or two for a patch to download if that’s what it takes. In this case, the break was good, I was able to check out GTA:SA. Not having the whole “world” open to me yet, I’m amazed at the size and scope of the thing! They have really out done themselves this time. I understand it’s 5 times bigger than GTA 3 and it has a bunch of other side games in it like playable Video Games and vending machines. There are a bunch more vehicles that the last one. Plus, I can’t wait to do my first B.A.S.E. jump off of one of the buildings as seen from the screen shots and previews.

  13. Wait till you get the Black Project – I use it all the time,its such fun!- also,its hard to beat the Harrier with lock-ons-WooHoo!

  14. So is anyone seeing problems with this new patch? Currently, the items in my backpack/bags are displaying about 5 pixels above where they are supposed to be. Plus, when my “backpack” is closed, I see 8 “boxes” representing locations that objects can be stored in. I assume they are from one of the bags. I really don’t know.

    Also, with a lot of my addons turned on, the game was crashing within 5 seconds of getting logged in and the character logged in. Turning them all off did fix the crashes.

    I gotta say, I’m not very happy with this patch. Others have been much cleaner.

  15. I play WoW on a private server for free. -shrug- I got tired of the official servers being overpopulated in the mining areas for one thing (I just love getting an entire vein of metals for myself). Currently the private servers offer the 1.4 patch, plus they tend to increase exp and gold rates by 5 times, so it isn’t such a grind to go level up and play. People just want the grind out of the way on those servers anyhow so we can just get straight to the PVP battles.

  16. Private Servers…  explain how these work, are established, by whom, etc.  Sounds interesting technically.  But, game wise?

    I love the throngs of people.  I actually wish it were a bit more crowded at times.

    Yup, bang fatal-err when we login, too, with our add-on’s enabled.  My Otherhalf is in the process of slowly turning each one on to isolate the offenders.  But, i think updated-patches within Cosmos will outpace him on this.

    One thing i’d like to see in Warcraft…
    The ability to change the world in a lasting way, for the duration of your character’s life.  Building homes, setup a shop, etc.  These could all be PayForFeatures, too.

  17. My wife has given up on Cosmos completely. I personally don’t even know what addons I was using, she installed them for me.

    I know I want my Titan info bar at the top and AltSelfCast. There is an addon that puts the loot window under the cursor. Those are must haves.

    Auctioneer is a nice to have since I am trying to make extra money selling items.

    As to permenant items, I would love to see shops. Man, would that be nice to have players that make items to sell. I mean really, once a character makes 60, what’s he to do? Other than form a group and head over to the “other side” to raid towns and such.

    Houses would be great alternatives to banks, although I would wonder if they would give other characters the ability to “break-in” to houses to steal things. It might be interesting to have a player ask another player to setup traps on doors and chests to protect items. Although, I can sure see players getting annoyed when their houses get broken into.

  18. Heh, i did just a few mins of research and found this regarding Cosmos & Warcraft1.5:

    Apparently something has changed/works differently with the live servers than it did with the patch and is causing some people to experience error #132 errors on login with Sky enabled. At this time we are working with blizzard to try and narrow down what is causing this issue.

    Cosmos Error Isolated

    I disabled Sky within Cosmos and i’m good to go.

    Regarding houses being broken into, i’d think you could hire “security”; The more security you have, the greater the force your property could withstand.  Characters (guilds?) might even be able to purchase land, thus providing themselves with a constant supply of material.  The idea of establishing property would have cool results within the game’s economy.

    Servers could have recessions, depressions, bubbles, and economic-war.

  19. The errors I was getting were the kind that crashed the client completely. I forget the exact text of the message, but the client goes away and a window appears in Windows to allow me to tell them what I was doing when the game crashed.

    I just have way to many addons installed that I don’t even know if I am using. Now that I know where to find them, I’m going to be installing them myself and keeping tabs on them myself too. Although, I really liked Cosmos’ way of handling updates. It would be nice if Blizzard or someone would crate a server that monitored addon updates and updated them like Cosmos does.

    I get the feeling that purchasing land in WoW would get to be a problem. There is a limited amount of real estate in the game and a ton of players. Mind you, land would be purchased for a single server and not all of them, but still. There must be thousands of people playing on a single server.

    One thing I would like to see in WoW in the future is a quest that gives the player the ability to transport “mail” from one mail station to another. The experience reward could be based on the level of the areas that the “pony express rider” would have to traverse to deliver the mail and how quick it was done.

  20. The errors I was getting were the kind that crashed the client completely. I forget the exact text of the message, but the client goes away and a window appears in Windows to allow me to tell them what I was doing when the game crashed.

    I got that behavior as well (which is called a fatal error, when the app crashes), and disabling Sky did the trick for me.

    Re: land property
    It would be expensive, according to inflation.  They’d most likely design a formula to auto-set the price on the market—and not all land could be purchased, but it could be leased.

    Many communities in RealTime have had the same concerns you bring up.

  21. I wasn’t sure we were on the same page, now I am. I realized that an addon was causing the problems.

    When I first started, my wife installed a ton of addons to my client. I don’t know what a tenth of them do. That’s why I am just going to wipe them all out and start with what I found and find.

    I am just greatful that I was able to find the item I was looking for in Blackfathom Depths before the crashing started. I just need one more item to complete the level 20 Paladin quest item, Verigan’s Fist. That will be a nice weapon!

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