CS Lewis’ ‘The Chronicles Of Narnia’ Begins

Never having read any of ‘The Chronicles of Narnia’ books by CS Lewis (mostly because I feared I would be preached to), I still find myself excited by the preview of the first movie installment ‘The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe’. It’s a curious-making trailer and Disney could have a hugely successful franchise on par with The Lord Of The Rings movies and the Star Wars phenomenon.

Of the 5 reasons listed on the Moviefone website as to why this venture may be a huge success, #5 may be the most convincing:

In fact, the Lewis books’ much-explored Christian allegorical themes are already inspiring some to predict box office success to rival the awesome take of that behemoth Christian non-allegory, ‘The Passion of the Christ.’

The non-allegory of ‘The Passion of the Christ’? They’re kidding, right?

I’m not overly pleased that it may be a huge thrill for Christians to see these books made into movies or that it will promote Christian ideals but I expected a venture to counter the satanic messages the Harry Potter books and movies contained. LOL

Disney has further committed to movie adaptations of the next 2 books in CS Lewis’  Narnia series. This first one could suck but dayum, it sure has a purty trailer! Check it out!

173 thoughts on “CS Lewis’ ‘The Chronicles Of Narnia’ Begins

  1. Having no moral guidelines to adhere to, I guess that you could be having lots of “fun” with your life, but how do you explain where you came from and why you are here?  With no hope and no significant purpose, life can get pretty depressing.  The only thing that makes me truly happy, aside from knowing that God loves me and wants me to be happy, is loving and being loved.  So, maybe that’s what Jesus came her to tell us.  Love is all we need.  Love conquers all.  Love makes the world go ‘round.  And how do we love?  Maybe, knowing that God loved us so much that he sacrificed his son for us so that we may know the truth and have eternal life, will give us a clue about how much we are loved and can love.  My life might not be as exciting as it was before I accepted Christ into my heart, but I have faith now, and I know that there is no problem that I cannot turn to God for help and answers. Why are we here?  To love and be loved.  What else really matters?

  2. So, if not from God (the 10 commandments), where to you get your guidelines?  All I am saying is that I am human.  I am not better or worse than you.  I do not profess to know any more than you and I am glad to have the help.  If your language is any indication of your character, then I guess your hell on earth is created by your own devaluation of your self.  Do you think that maybe you might have a better opinion of yourself if you know that someone greater than you (hard to believe?) loves you?  I am sorry to have offended you.  I didn’t mean to do that.  But, hey, you seem to thrive on abuse or at least abusing.

  3. Erin,

      yeah, Les seems to have low self esteem and is extremely reactionary whenever someone brings up the subject of God.
      Perhaps God is beginning to work in his heart. I thank God everyday that he saved me from the “hell on earth” that Les appears to be experiencing.
        Without a true purpose in this life and what you’re here for, how can you even go day to day? It’s not only drudgery, it’s insane.

      Andrew

  4. Andrew, do you know what “reactionary” means? 

    Erin & Andrew, Les’ ire reveals nothing other than having had the same garbage thrown in his path over and over by presumptive jerks like you.  Really, who are you to drop in, obviously having not done much reading on this site, and start saying his life, or anyone’s, has no purpose?  Or that he, or anyone, lacks a moral foundation?  And then say; “Gee, I didn’t mean to offend anyone!” 

    Countless times I’ve seen Les patiently give carefully thought-out answers to comments like yours.  But after a while, it’s just another idiot showing up with an armload of assumptions. What was that old saying about assumptions again?  Oh yeah…

    You can add my “reaction” to his.

  5. decrepit,

      Well, I have noticed one definite thing and that is that you, Les and others seem to like to call people (especially who disagree with you)degrading names whenever we make an observation based on our opinions or experience. It seems perfectly okay for you to make a presupposition, but as soon as someone presses your buttons all of a sudden were the jerks?
      God is willing to love you, but you must be willing to receive Him.

      Andrew

  6. Erin and Andrew- if you want a taste of how we’ve hashed through all this stuff before, and why presuming our lives to be without meaning pisses us off, check out this.

    Erin, you asked Les where he got his moral guidelines, if not from the Ten Commandments.  I won’t presume to answer for him, especially if Andrew is right about God starting to “work” in his heart (Les, what kind of job are you giving God to do in your left auricle?), but there are all sorts of other sources for morals, thank Darwin.  Many of them are genetically based to some extent (loving your children almost certainly, for example), and others are more-or-less enlightened self-interest (the Golden Rule is a pretty universal one).

    In brief, morals are what build societies out of individuals. Morals have evolved in the ideosphere in a somewhat analogous way to organisms in the biosphere- the successful ones survived.  Gods have proven to be useful carrot-and-stick wielders to encourage acceptance of morals, especially where the individual must cede some freedom to the society (thou shalt not commit adultery).

    There’s a lot more to it, of course.  But saying that atheists can have no morals and no purpose in life is insulting- and simply untrue.

  7. Andrew: you, Les and others seem to like to call people (especially who disagree with you)degrading names whenever we make an observation based on our opinions or experience.

    I didn’t call you a jerk because of your opinion, but because you were acting like a jerk.  If you had a blog and I just dropped in and started telling you what I thought of your religion, the meaning of your life, your morals, etc., how would you take it?  Especially if you’d heard it all before from people who thought it was their mission in life to set you straight? 

    Maybe the first time, or the tenth time, you’d bear it patiently, but eventually you’d just tell the commenter to “bugger off”.

  8. Decrepit,

        Sorry if you thought I was acting like a jerk. The bible tells believers to spread the Gospel and Erin and I havent actually done that. My apologies.
        However, it seems that by what you’ve said or seen on this blog or other websites that you’ve probably heard the Gospel quite a few times and have disregarded it.
        In case you haven’t, a very good explanation of it is at the website below. Basically what it attempts to do is give you an understanding of who God is and who we are in relation/comparison and His gift of a Savior to those who would beleive in Him.
    If you’ve ever read any of the bible(and I’m assuming you have)that too will give some insight to who God is.
     
        Andrew

    http://www.southsidebc.net/knowinggod.htm

  9. Andrew,
        I was once like you. Though I believe ( hope) that your intentions are noble, take it from someone ho has read the Bible as well as a number of other religious texts, conversion will not happen with the tone that you were using.Mostly because people don’t like being converted. Religious debate? Yes, that’s why most of us are here. Debate itself cannot occur without raional arguments. Condemning people to hell or telling them that they live life without a purpose only undermines any real purposeful debate

  10. Andrew said: “Sorry if you thought I was acting like a jerk.”

    Andrew, that is a politician’s apology.  You cannot apologize for my act; in this case my thought, that you were acting like a jerk.

    You can only apologize for your own act; in this case acting like a jerk.  But you don’t really believe that you were, do you? 

    I will accept at face value that your intentions are good.  There is an old saying about good intentions…

    Don’t bother apologizing: I’ve seen this many times before.  God-shouter shows up, thinks he’s Moses and John the Baptist all rolled into one, gets dope-slapped for it, “apologizes”, says “Even though I came on like I did, God blah, blah, something, something, something…”

    And yes, I some familiarity with the bible.  Many of us have.  Was there something in that website more pursuasive than the Bible?  Or just more of what you were spewing earlier?

  11. Dammit. I had a nice lengthy reply here and the net ate it.

    Short version: Erin and Andrew, you’re both being presumptive arrogant assholes. Either get a fucking clue before you try to “save” me and anyone else here or just take your nonsense someplace else where they might appreciate your idiocy for the humor value inherent in it if nothing else.

  12. To step in as mediator quickly(and likely unwanted…ly?) Erin and Andrew take my word for it that praying for Les and the others is the most you can do.  Don’t try to argue with them unless you hold a real doctorate in something useful for debate.  These people are some of the most intelligent I’ve met on the net.  My faith has been harshly challenged here, but strengthened nonetheless.  Christian apologetics is not a basis for faith so I hope God is real to you in illogical and irrational ways because logic and rationale can be destroyed and the people here are smart enough to do it.

    The people here for the most part are nice, honest and considerate people.  I’m glad to call a few of them friends of sorts.  I try to pray for them regularly myself.  The moral grounds for an atheist have already been philosophically established in secular humanism.  Click here to read about the Affirmations of Humanism if you are unfamiliar with the concept.  God bless.

  13. Decrepit,

        You’re right. I shouldn’t apologise for what you think. However, I would NEVER presume I have the faith and close intimacy with God as Moses, John the Baptist or any other prophet has had or will.
      Decrepit, Les and anyone else that doesn’t believe in GOD, I CANNOT save you. To have faith in GOD, to be saved and any other blessings that anyone has is ALL by HIM. GOD commands believers to glorify Him and to spread the good news (Gospel). AGAIN, this is all by GOD. By His will do I glorify Him. By His will do I talk about Him. By His will would I even attempt to communicate to you or anyone else.
      It’s not about us, it’s about GOD. That is why we are here. ALL of us. I pray that one day He will reveal Himself to you.

      Andrew

  14. Andrew – so we’re back to waiting for God to reveal himself to me?  I guess this conversation has gone in a complete circle.  Please see my comment of 8/17/05.

    So God needs us to glorify him.  Huh.  You’d think if he created the universe he wouldn’t need semi-sentient specks like us to go around singing his praises.

  15. You’d think if he created the universe he wouldn’t need semi-sentient specks like us to go around singing his praises.

    Speak for yourself, semidecrepit!  Man, if I went to the trouble and expense of creating a choir, I’d damn well want them to sing!

  16. Decrepit,

        GOD NEVER needed us or anything. He USES us for His glory, but I assure you, GOD was doing just fine before He created the universe.
        We praise Him because He is worthy of praise. He is deserving of praise. Any good thing that you receive, do you think that you deserve it? And if so, why? Why would we sinners of a GOD as holy and righteous as He, think that we DESERVE anything, but His wrath?
      GOD didn’t want to condemn His creation to hell as we all deserve, but to send a Savior, Jesus Christ to take our punishment. That is who GOD is.
      Why would anyone who has an inkling of who GOD is, deny His Love and Grace? That grieves me more than you’ll ever know.

  17. Why would anyone who has an inkling of who the EASTER BUNNY is, deny His candy and eggs?

    Much like Les, I’m sick to death of these folks and their never-ending condescension cloaked in the guise of “witnessing for the Lord.” 

    Fuck you, Fuck Jesus… keep your goddamned delusions to yourself.  If being a filthy rag in need of salvation is what makes you happy, have at it.  The rest of us, who are living perfectly good lives feeling fulfilled without the need to thank/praise/worship an invisible Sky Daddy, would like you to just shut the fuck up, and quit sullying our secular society, our government and popular culture with your idea that human beings are shit and need salvation by your god-on-a-stick.

    Tell it to someone who gives a shit.

  18. Andrew said: “GOD NEVER needed us or anything. He USES us for His glory, but I assure you, GOD was doing just fine before He created the universe.”

    You assure me.  Now you can speak confidently about God’s emotional state before the dawn of time – piffle!

    [Then a bunch of stuff about God is great, we are scum, blah, blah, blah]

    “…That is who GOD is. Why would anyone who has an inkling of who GOD is, deny His Love and Grace? That grieves me more than you’ll ever know.”

    So you know who God is.  ‘Cuz you read it in a book, you had a feeling, you accepted a myth that is popular in your culture, etc.

    Andrew, are you just unable to keep from digging yourself in deeper?  I suggest you go back and read Theo’s comment again (if you read it the first time – a big ‘if’)

  19. OB,

      If you were as fulfilled as you claim, you wouldn’t have this attitude. You wouldn’t curse me or anyone else. You wouldn’t have the obvious anger that you have.
      About needing salvation? You bet I need it and VERY thankful for it.
      Could you define “perfectly good lives” though? I’m very interested in knowing what your opinion of that is. Because it doesn’t seem by the tone of your posting that your life is “perfect” or “good”.
      All you’ve done is lash out in anger for something you don’t understand. You’ve mocked me, cursed God and have shown me nothing but contempt.
      At least some of the earlier postings, some responded with their opinions without cursing or mockery. I don’t agree with them just as they don’t agree with me, but we could still remain somewhat civil to each other.
      Your responses tell me that you are hurting inside and that you’re actually not fulfilled, but miserable. It’s normal what you’re experiencing, but it doesn’t have to be.

  20. Andrew,

    Anger is not a sign of a bitter, unfullfilled person. It is a response to stupidity or injustice. If you never get angry you either have no sense of justice or your under heavy medication.

    As for the cursing, sometimes its just fun to say GO FUCK YOURSELF to a condescending little shit like you. Obviously treating you with respect doesn’t work or you would have stopped your inane ranting after Theo’s post. You don’t actually make any points, so debate is out of the question. That just leaves us with insult and ridicule.

    So, as long as you continue with the silly, god loves you posts, we’re going to continue to heap abuse at you. Not because we’re angry or bitter, just because it amuses us.

    So sod off you annoying little git.

  21. What cracks me up is comments like…

    Any good thing that you receive, do you think that you deserve it? And if so, why? Why would we sinners of a GOD as holy and righteous as He, think that we DESERVE anything, but His wrath?

    …and yet they try to tell me that I have a negative self-image and living a miserable existence in a Hell on Earth.

    Andrew is so clueless he doesn’t understand that we’re annoyed with him, not with something “we don’t understand” as many of us do understand it, having been believers in the past. He wouldn’t know that, however, because he’s basing his judgment on what little he’s seen instead of trying to find out what we’re really like before forming an opinion. Then when we get annoyed as his arrogance he tries to tell us we’re just unfulfilled because we don’t believe in his imaginary plaything.

  22. I almost feel sorry for Andrew right now. He just doesn’t understand the kind of hole he’s digging for himself. Andrew, please, quit while you’re behind. You’re not going to convert anyone with your condescension and inability to actually debate. It’s ridiculous to come here and tell people what to think and that their own lives are trash without even the ability to back it up. It’s your own damn fault people are getting impatient with you—what do you expect with an attitude like yours.

    This is really ridiculous. Wasn’t this post about a freaking movie??

  23. yup, lovely book about a lion…
    Debate is only possible when all are respectful of each other’s opinions, and each person comes to the table with RATIONAL agruments. For all have fallen short in the glory of debate.

  24. To the tune of “Glory, Glory Hallelujah”:

    For all have fallen short now in the glory of debate
    Were we feelin kinda pissed off, was it just somethin we ate
    Or perhaps because another Christian moral reprobate
    Delurked and irked our soul

    Glory, Godgiven Salvation
    If you got the Invitation
    If you didn’t, Hell’s your Station
    With Trolls you’ll shovel Coal

  25. Brock: “I wonder if you have to accept him as your Lord and Saviour though in order to win the game.”

    I believe that is precisely the point of evangelical Christianity.  Well, plus vote Republican.  And hate gays.  And oppose abortion.  And oppose affirmative action.  And invade Iraq…

    “What we want, if men become Christians at all, is to keep them in the state of mind I call “Christianity And.” You know – Christianity and the Crisis, Christianity and the New Psychology, Christianity and the New Order, Christianity and Faith Healing, Christianity and Psychical Research, Christianity and Vegetarianism, Christianity and Spelling Reform. If they must be Christians, let them at least be Christians with a difference. Substitute for the faith itself some Fashion with a Christian colouring. Work on their horror of the Same Old Thing.”
    – Lewis’ demon, “Screwtape”, explaining how to undermine Christianity

  26. I know that I am a freak. Agnostic and not a Democrat. It’s amazing how much you can relieve yourself of the burden of thought by voting down party lines. It’s almost as liberating as being a TrueBeliever. Look I am something! I have the moral high road! I’m happy being the freak I am even if it cuts into my superiority complex training.

  27. Andrew is so clueless he doesn’t understand that we’re annoyed with him, not with something “we don’t understand

  28. Andrew, let me get this straight. If I get angry about a genocide going on in the Sudan, it means I’m unfulfilled and bitter? If I get angry about the people dying in the Iraq war, it’s because I’m just too darn prideful?

    And who are you to tell Les just why he’s not a believer anymore? Do you know him personally? Do you know his life story?

    Stop deciding things for people you’ve never met, and stop pretending you know a damn thing about emotion and psychology.

  29. Andrew said:

    Sorry, but I had to respond to this. Les, if you had been a believer (saved) you still would be, but your life, your thoughts, your actions, all these things would change…drastically. You probably along with who knows how many people said what you thought or was told was a “soul-saving prayer

  30. Talking soup,

      Yeah, that a genocide is going on anywhere would make me bitter because of the sense of injustice. But you’ve used 2 very different and extreme examples that really can’t be applied here because genocide and war go (or mostly) against universally accepted moralistic creed or behavior.
      The reason I don’t think Les is saved is because what I said in my last post about extreme changes in one’s life. He flagrantly tosses out profanity (which a saved person would NEVER do)
      He openly argues that He doesn’t believe in GOD (again, a saved person wouldn’t do that).
      I don’t need to “know” his life story. There is proof in his words. and if his words are indicative of his life, then I would conclude He’s not saved.
      I don’t and can’t decide anything for anyone on this blog. That’s illogical and as psychology goes, I’m not pretending.

  31. Andrew, again: “Les, if you had been a believer (saved) you still would be…”

    Have you ever heard of the “No True Scotsman” fallacy?  I’m guessing not.

    Also KPatrickGlover, you’re wrong about what you said about anger. Anger IS about a bitter unfulfilled person.

    So when Jesus went postal on the money-changers in the temple, was he bitter, or unfulfilled?  Or some combination of the two?

    If you’re about to say it was OK for him to be angry, but not for us, save your breath.  He was “fully human”, remember?

    KPatrick’s answer was right on target.  Anger is a normal response to unrelenting annoyance, among other things.  You are the 1.6×104th person to say; “You must believe!  God will save you from being a scumbag like you really are!!!”  Then you wonder why we don’t just sit down with a cup of mellow vanilla flavored General Foods’ International Coffee and say; “Please, tell us more!”

    If you think I’ve been condescending, well, that’s your opinion. I’m trying to show you that your lack of belief and arguments are based on man’s rationale or sense of logic, not the complexity of GOD.

    “Condescension: n 2. Patronizingly superior behavior or attitude.”

    ‘You poor sinners, you’ve been deceived.  Here let me set you straight.’  The condescension lies in coming here to deliver the word.  (Note: the two sentences in single-quotes in this paragraph are a summary, not literal quotes.)

    So, go ahead throw some more insults and profanity at me. But, here’s a
    quote I fully agree with. “Profanity is the attempt of a feeble mind to express itself forcefully.”

    So that’s an easy way to tell a feeble mind from a strong one, eh?  Not whether someone engages in serial logical fallacies, or fails to learn about a group before preaching to it, or assumes they know someone’s motives or life based on stereotypes they’ve applied to that person?  That’s not how you tell if someone has a feeble mind?

    Huh.  Never knew it was that simple.  Now I don’t need to really pay attention to what anyone is saying; I can just watch for keywords.  If the words “shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, or tits” appear in anything they say, they have a feeble mind.  Thanks, Andrew!  You’ve just revolutionized intelligence testing!

    Dumbass.

    The reason I don’t think Les is saved is because what I said in my last post about extreme changes in one’s life. He flagrantly tosses out profanity (which a saved person would NEVER do)
    He openly argues that He doesn’t believe in GOD (again, a saved person wouldn’t do that).
    I don’t need to “know

  32. Sandy,

      There ya go again treating Jesus as if he were ONLY man…He was, is and will forever be the Son of GOD, GOD in human form.
      And yes, Jesus did get angry at the people dishonoring the church because GOD has a RIGHT to be angry. Sandy, why don’t you try reading the bible (and understanding what you read) before you make such a shallow observation?
      As far as judging Les? I just gave my opinion…like you did.
      And about your perception of your own intelligence? That’s called an opinion too.

  33. If you were as fulfilled as you claim, you wouldn’t have this attitude. You wouldn’t curse me or anyone else. You wouldn’t have the obvious anger that you have.

    My “obvious anger” is due to the fact that 25 years worth of trying to “respect” the need for religious people to cling to their delusions while simultaneously (and unsuccessfully) trying to halt their willful infection of my government and culture with those delusions.

    Could you define “perfectly good lives

  34. I see we’re back to the “No True Christian would…” line of argument. Always a popular one with the apologists.

    Sorry, but I had to respond to this. Les, if you had been a believer (saved) you still would be, but your life, your thoughts, your actions, all these things would change…drastically.

    My pastor would probably argue that I’m still saved even though I’ve gone on to become an atheist. He taught that once you were saved you’d always be saved and there wasn’t anything you could do to change that. I’ve heard a ton of arguments both for and against that idea from various Christians over the years, but it’s a moot point as far as I’m concerned.

    Regardless this again shows your arrogance in presuming to know my past based on only a little info about my present. Your ignorance just makes you look like an idiot. The truly amusing part about it is the fact that I’ve talked about my past quite a bit here on this blog and it’s all in the archives for you to read up on, but you’d rather pretend to have me all figured out without knowing anything about me.

    You probably along with who knows how many people said what you thought or was told was a “soul-saving prayer

  35. Andrew- why should anyone here take you seriously?  You tell us our lives are meaningless, you claim all kinds of personal knowledge about us although you don’t know us from Adam, you pelt us with tired old fundie fare, and then you whine when we respond sarcastically.  Read a lot more threads here, get a feeling for who we are and what we’ve dealt with already, before sounding off anymore.  I guarantee it will be more entertaining for all of us.

  36. Yeah, that a genocide is going on anywhere would make me bitter because of the sense of injustice. But you’ve used 2 very different and extreme examples that really can’t be applied here because genocide and war go (or mostly) against universally accepted moralistic creed or behavior.

    Hmmm… they certainly don’t appear to be against God’s morals – or the morals we’re supposed to adopt according to Scripture.

    Joshua 10:40 (KJV)

    40So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded.

    Judges 21:10-12 (KJV)

    10And the congregation sent thither twelve thousand men of the valiantest, and commanded them, saying, Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead with the edge of the sword, with the women and the children.

    11And this is the thing that ye shall do, Ye shall utterly destroy every male, and every woman that hath lain by man.

    12And they found among the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead four hundred young virgins, that had known no man by lying with any male: and they brought them unto the camp to Shiloh, which is in the land of Canaan.

    2 Kings 10:17 (KJV)

    17And when he came to Samaria, he slew all that remained unto Ahab in Samaria, till he had destroyed him, according to the saying of the LORD, which he spake to Elijah.

    Ezekiel 9:4-6 (KJV)

    4And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

    5And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

    6Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

    God is certainly one bloodthirsty motherfucker!

  37. zilch,

      I never said that your lives were meaningless and if I even implied that, I truly apologise.
      Les, yeah, I admit I still sin. I earlier was letting agitation dictate what I thought and typed when I really should have just “let it go”. I still have issues that are being dealt with, but that admission or confession in itself AND the desire to change or repent helps give me my assurance and faith.
      You and the others are right about me not knowing what you’ve dealt with before and drawing conclusions (or did I really?). I thought we were all being open here, but I guess I should have read earlier logs to know where you were coming from..guess I am a “newbie”.
      Thank you for your advice and yes, I will read some more about you and the others before I make a comment.
        Thank you all for help pointing out my sin and faults that I have. Take care.

  38. Yeah, that a genocide is going on anywhere would make me bitter because of the sense of injustice. But you’ve used 2 very different and extreme examples that really can’t be applied here because genocide and war go (or mostly) against universally accepted moralistic creed or behavior.

    Thank you for contradicting yourself. How the hell is it “different?” It’s okay to get angry at something, just as long as it’s something that’s universally unacceptable? So I have no individuality or free will? If I get angry at something it’s because it’s pissing me off, simple as that—like you’re doing by coming here with the holier-than-thou mentality that’s a trademark of people like you.

    I don’t and can’t decide anything for anyone on this blog.

    But you already are. You’re passing judgment on us, people you’ve never met, after having read a few comments on a single thread. You’ve already decided that Les and the rest of us aren’t saved, that we’re all believers at heart, etc. etc.

    Tiresome as you are, it’s getting amusing to watch you dig yourself even deeper.

  39. OB,

      Yeah, a lot of old testament cities and countries were wiped out. This was usually only after repeated disobedience to God’s command. That’s why believers think God sent Jesus.

  40. Aww, c’mon Elwed.  That wouldn’t be as much fun!

    God:  (irrationally enraged) “How DARE they disobey my obscure and contradictory commands?  Kill ALL of them!!!  Wipe them ALL out!!! Every man, woman and child!  KILL THE LIVESTOCK!  Burn down their…”

    Jesus:  “Dad!  Chill out, man!  Dude, in 2500 years, they’re going to call what you’re doing “genocide” and put people on trial for it.”

    God:  “But it’s MY planet!  I created everything.  Can’t I wipe it all out if I want to?”

    Jesus: “I suppose you could, but those are sentient beings you created.  If preservation of the others’ autonomy is at the core of ethics, you can’t just be killing them anytime they give you a headache.”

    God:  “I knew it was a mistake to send you to college.  Next you’ll be saying “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” or some other soft-headed crap like that.  What do you propose, college-boy?  Somebody has to die for their disobedience…

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