Anybody Know Of A Good Exorcist?

I’m not sure if this story falls under the subject of transmigration of the soul, religious fanaticism, scientific inquiry or what, but it definitely made me stop and think.

I’ve been following the story of Luna, the killer whale who’s been too friendly with boats and apparently has been making a pest of herself while separated from her pod. So much so that Canadian and U.S. scientists want to relocate her to where her family summers in waters along the U.S.-Canada border.

But theres one small problem now…

Native Protest Disrupts Canada Whale Capture
Thu Jun 17, 2004 10:18 AM ET

The effort to reunite a lonely orca with its family was disrupted on Wednesday by native Indian protesters who believe the animal is the spirit of a dead chief and do not want it to leave.

Members of the Mowachaht-Muchalaht band used canoes to lure the curious killer whale, nicknamed Luna, away from a boat that scientists had hoped the animal would follow into a floating capture pen.

The canoes got Luna to swim more than 4.5 miles away from the capture pen on Nootka Sound on western Vancouver Island, according to reporters monitoring the capture effort.

Luna’s fascination with boats is a reason scientists want to relocate him to the Strait of Juan de Fuca on the U.S.- Canada border off southern Vancouver Island, where they hope he will reunite with his family pod.

Whale experts believe that Luna, whose official name is L98, is searching for human companionship because there are no other killer whales in Nootka Sound. But they fear he will get hurt in a collision with a boat or float plane.

Luna was first sighted in Nootka Sound near the village of Gold River, British Columbia, in 2001, several days after the band’s respected chief, Ambrose Maquinna, died.

Killer whales, or orcas, are the biggest members of the dolphin family and play a major role in Indian culture on Canada’s Pacific Coast. Members of the Mowachaht-Muchalaht say they have a deep spiritual attachment to the animal.

Nootka Sound, which is about 160 miles west of Vancouver, is in the Mowachaht-Muchalaht’s historic territory, and they have objected to the relocation plan since it was first proposed by Canadian and U.S. scientists last year

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So my questions deal with whether Luna is in control of her own destiny, and how could she be if she’s been possessed? The Native American chief would probably prefer to remain near his tribe. Luna though, may be being kept from her family by supernatural force. What to do, what to do?

This is a heady subject folks and I don’t intend to demean it by blubbering on, so I’ll stop and ask what you think. Hell, I’d like to know for sure what I think!



17 thoughts on “Anybody Know Of A Good Exorcist?

  1. Any way to get another killer whale or two into the region to lure him away?  Then maybe they can convince the native tribe that even if it WAS their chief, he clearly wanted to leave.

    Don’t know how easy that would be to accomplish, but it might avoid the theological arguments …

    (captcha:  call)

  2. Does Orca taste anything like Halibut?

    Let the natives hunt it down and have a large ceremony eating the body of ‘Luna’ and freeing the spirit of the Mowachaht-Muchalaht chief.  Luna’s destiny as divine vessel will have been fulfilled and scientists can start looking out for L99.

  3. That’s a great idea, GeekMom, that never even occurred to me. I was thinking along the lines of a séance or some other way to communicate with the spirit of the chief. I can just hear Miss Cleo now –

    “Caller, ya,… can I please get your first name only please?… You’re a Libra, aren’t ya darlin’?…You say you’re a killer whale possessed by the spirit of a Mowachaht-Muchalaht indian chief. Ya caller, that’s rough, but you know things always happen for a reason don’t they darlin’? Now Miss Cleo gonna tell you what you should do about it. First, do ya have a major credit card?…”

    And deadscot, that was just WRONG, buddy! *pinches deadscot*
    Have you seen this whale? He’s so friendly and happy; all he wants is a friend. It just breaks my heart to wonder why his family would abandon him. He must be gay or something.

  4. *ouch* quit it *sniffle*

    [Quote]It just breaks my heart to wonder why his family would abandon him. He must be gay or something.[/Quote]

    Are you implying his family abandoned him for coming out? ‘Insert appropriate LSGFI here.’

  5. Les. I’m going to let you know what YOU think. You think that the whale experts are right and that Luna needs to be relocated back to the pod. See how easy that was? grin


  6. I was going to say that I already know what I think about the issue.

    Mainly that the Mowachaht-Muchalaht Indians need to be slapped upside of their heads a few times with a reality-stick. It’s a friggin’ whale you morons.

  7. Whales have been here longer than people. They have us figured out already (I mean, the only human ever to figure out the whale was Herman Melville…and nobody can read or understand Moby Dick).

    There’s a Great White Shark splashing about in a lake somewhere in New England (was in the news a few weeks back). Nobody can figure out what she’s doing there. Well, the truth is the Great White Shark is following her karma set down by the Megaladon Sharks of prehistoric times (those sharks that were the size of Greyhound buses, they could swim fast as a modern porpoise, and they ate whales). The Megaladons eventually were trapped in dried up oceans in Montana and Wyoming, and finally died out for lack of something big enough to eat.

    Just feed Luna the whale and realize that she knows more about us than we know about her…fred call aka bigbro

  8. Every Indian I ever knew hated to be called a native. Said it made them feel like they were on an island in the Pacific Ocean or something……bigbro

  9. Points taken and though I would not normally change an entry this old, I changed what I could (in italics) but cannot fairly change the quotes.

    I would rather not offend unless it serves a purpose of mine. Still, I wouldn’t mind knowing the best-liked term.

  10. This indian I know who taught me how to wrestly aligators, he insisted that I call him ‘Heathen Bob.’ Specially when we were drinking firewater. He even insisted we call Budweiser firewater. “You got a six-pack of long neck firewaters on sale,” he’d ask the convenient store clerk. Then he’d hand the clerk a MasterCard with the name Heathen on it. And when the clerk didn’t believe that he had legally changed his name to Heathen, Heathen would show him a driver license with his name, Heathen, on it. Heathen made it fun for us to purchase firewater on a Friday night before wrestling aligators…….bigbro

  11. Family videos what could be Ogopogo

    By SERINA PARSONS Special to The Daily Courier

    A video showing a long, writhing shape in Okanagan Lake is being investigated as a possible Ogopogo sighting

    John Casorso and his family rented a houseboat to spend some quiet time on the lake, but ended up with intriguing video footage of something mysterious in the water

    On Aug. 9, at 7:30 a.m., he said the houseboat started rocking back and forth fiercely. The rocking woke up the family, who ventured to the top deck to see what was happening. When Casorso reached the deck, he said he was shocked to see something swimming away from the boat. “The only reason we noticed it is because it passed underneath the houseboat,” said Casorso. “We could really feel the power and size of what it was.” Casorso acted quickly, retrieving his video camera to get footage of the creature. He has a total of approximately 15 minutes of video footage that clearly shows a calm lake, no boat movement and a long, dark hump rising above the water

    Casorso said what he saw looked to be about 15 metres long, and there may have been more than one

    “It seemed like, on one occasion, there was at least one parallel to the larger one and at least one behind it,” he said. “It couldn’t have been a wave because it wasn’t dissipating. It remained in the same area for over 10 minutes.” Asked why he decided to wait so long to let the public know about his sighting, Casorso said he took the advice of local Ogopogo expert Arlene Gaal

    “I showed her, and she said we should take it slow,” said Casorso. “I also didn’t want to rush into it too quickly because over the years lots of people have gotten pictures or footage and the response is not always favourable.” Gaal, a chronicler of Ogopogo sightings and an author on the subject, said she believes Casorso has an interesting video and has caught on tape what many people believe to be Ogopogo

    “I feel that John has some really good footage that adds to solving the puzzle and mystery of Ogopogo,” said Gaal. According to Gaal, there have been nine reported sightings this year, and she suspects there have been more that were not reported due to the ridicule factor surrounding such a story

    Casorso also followed Gall’s advice to copyright the video

    He showed it to a few friends first, to get their opinion, and said he enjoyed seeing their reactions. “One thing I like about the video is that it’s poor quality at first, but then it gets very clear and people always say, `Wow, what is that?’ when they realize there is more there than just wave,” Casorso said

    Janet Courtney was one of the people to see the video, and she says it’s convincing

    “I believe anything is possible,” said Courtney. “But after seeing the video, I’m convinced that there is something there, for sure.” Daily Courier news editor Jon Manchester said he’s usually skeptical about Ogopogo sightings, but was perplexed after viewing Casorso’s video. “I don’t know how to describe it . . . I know I saw something, I don’t know what, and it was more than a log floating in the water. It’s by far the most convincing Ogopogo evidence I’ve ever seen.” Casorso has lived in the Okanagan all his life and always thought there was some merit to the Ogopogo legend

    “I would always carry on with my kids that we would see Ogopogo,” said Casorso. “We were pretty excited when something actually happened because you never expect to actually see it.” Ogopogo is the subject of the Sci-Fi channel’s Proof Positive on Dec. 1 at 8 p.m.

  12. Since many of you probably don’t read the bible but are talking about exorcisms, I thought I might go ahead and share this word of warning from the good book with you;

    Acts 19:11-17
    11: And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul:
    12: So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them.
    13: Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
    14: And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
    15: And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
    16: And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.
    17: And this was known to all the Jews and Greeks also dwelling at Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified.

  13. Gij,

    I think you’d be surprised at the number of us who actually are quite literate in terms of scripture.  Also, I think the exorcism stuff was in jest.

  14. I don’t know if you’re kidding about excorcism. But you spend a night with your head spinning (without the help of booze) and you won’t be laughing so hard about an exorcism after that…….marcythewhore

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